Private or small group
The honest version: what you are buying with each, where the money goes, and the cases where we would tell you to take the cheaper option.
The two things side by side
| Private departure | Small group departure | |
|---|---|---|
| Who is with you | Only the people you booked with | Up to eight travellers in total |
| Dates | Any date you choose | Fixed dates, mostly November to February |
| Route | Changed freely before and during | Fixed, with some flexibility on free afternoons |
| Pace | Yours | The group's, set by the slowest walker |
| Cost, 2 people | From about USD 155 per person per day | From about USD 110 per person per day |
| Cost, 4 people | From about USD 120 per person per day | From about USD 110 per person per day |
| Vehicle | Yours alone | Shared with the group |
| Guide attention | Entirely yours | Divided by up to eight |
The number worth staring at is the four-person row. At four travellers, private and group cost almost the same, because four people already fill a vehicle and pay for a guide. Below four, private carries a real premium. Above four, private is often the cheaper of the two.
Where the price difference comes from
Three costs are fixed per departure regardless of how many people are on it: the vehicle and driver, the guide, and any private boat. Everything else - rooms, meals, entrance fees - is per person and identical either way.
| Cost | Per day | Behaves like |
|---|---|---|
| Vehicle and driver | USD 95 - 120 | Fixed per departure |
| Licensed guide | USD 50 - 65 | Fixed per departure |
| Private boat, half day | USD 55 - 100 | Fixed per departure |
| Hotel room | USD 35 - 95 | Per two people |
| Meals and entrance fees | USD 25 - 45 | Per person |
So a private day in Laos carries roughly USD 145 to 185 of fixed cost. Divided by two people that is USD 73 to 93 each; divided by six it is USD 24 to 31. That single division is the entire argument, and it is why we publish price tables by group size rather than a single figure.
When the cheaper option is the right one
We sell more private trips than group ones, and we would still tell you to take a group departure in these cases.
- You are two people on a tight budget. The gap is largest at two, and a shared departure at USD 110 a day is a much better trip than a private one you have had to strip back to afford.
- You are travelling alone. A solo private trip carries the whole vehicle and guide. A group departure roughly halves your cost and gives you company on the long river days.
- You want the route we would build anyway. If our ten-day highlights itinerary is already what you want, you are paying a premium for flexibility you will not use.
- You are new to the region and would like other travellers around. That is a real reason and nobody should be embarrassed by it.
When private is the only sensible answer
- You are four or more. The price gap has closed and you get your own vehicle. There is no argument left for sharing.
- You have fixed dates outside November to February. We run few group departures outside the high season and a private trip is likely the only option.
- You are travelling with children. Pace, meal times and the ability to stop are worth more than the money.
- Someone in your party has a mobility limit. Group walking days are set by the itinerary; private days are set by you.
- You have a specific interest - textiles, coffee, archaeology, birds. A private guide with a brief is a different trip from a general one.
Deciding, in five steps
- Count your party. Four or more, book private and stop reading.
- Check your dates. Outside November to February, private is probably the only thing available.
- Look at our fixed itinerary for the region you want. If it is within about 80 per cent of what you would design, a group departure is good value.
- Ask what you would change. If the answer is one hotel, take the group. If it is the pace or the order, take private.
- Compare the two quotes on a per-day basis, not a total. Different lengths make totals meaningless.
We will run this with you rather than leave you to guess. Ask for both prices in the same email and we will send both.
What we mean by small
Eight travellers, and the departure closes there. It is not a marketing number: eight is what fits one minibus with the back row free for bags, one boat without anyone on the roof, and one guide who can still answer a question at the back of the group.
At twelve, you need a second vehicle, a second guide, and thirty minutes of every village stop is spent counting heads. There are operators who do that well and we are not one of them - if you are a group of twelve, we will tell you who to call.
Ask for both prices
Send dates and a headcount, and we will quote the group departure and the private version side by side with no pressure either way.
Questions travellers ask most
How many people are usually on a group departure?
Four to six is typical. We cap at eight and departures with fewer than three travellers are usually merged with another date or converted to a private trip at the group price.
We tell you the current number when you ask, and we will tell you if it is likely to grow.
Can we join a group departure and add private days?
Yes, and it is a good way to control cost. Take the group route for the long legs and add private days at either end.
The Luang Prabang and Nong Khiaw extensions are the two most people add.
Are group hotels worse?
No. We use the same hotels for both, at the same standard you choose. The difference is the vehicle and the guide, not the rooms.
Group departures do have fixed hotel choices, where a private trip can substitute.
What if we do not get on with the group?
Eight people, five to fifteen days, in a country where the days are long. It happens occasionally and the guide is trained to manage it.
If it is genuinely not working we will split the itinerary and give you separate transport, and we will absorb the cost the first time.
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